rounded a head, what to do?

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  1. Sashi

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    Rounded the bolt head that holds the brake pads in. Theres 2 of them, i rounded the one on the right (marked wi green) . I've taken the calipers off, obviously, but what are my options now ? Freaking 2 minute maintance is now a disaster haha

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  2. ithaca00

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    Can you shove a larger hex wrench in there?

    If not, Dremel it out to fit a bigger hex wrench, then replace. Drill it out with an easy out.
     
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    Try an ez-out. Available at Ace Hardware.

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    I have easy outs if you are interested in not spending the money. Just pm me.
     
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    hammer a flat blade screw driver in there and see if you can turn it if not use vise grips on the screw driver to help turn it
     
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    This can be a far worse situation than it appears, Of course drill a pilot hole dead center and try an easy out but I would suggest to soak the pin area overnight in some kind of break free type of product before trying the e-z out.
    I have personal knowledge of this on Tokico calipers. Nothing worse than snapping off an e-z out flush in the hole.

    Now on all my bikes I remove the pins day one and give them a dose of antisieze.

    Also there is no need to tighten the crap out of them. Never seen one come out that I have snugged down .
     
  7. Sashi

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    thanks fellas. So, having never done this, how does easy out work? You drill a certain sized hole through the bolt and then pop in the easy out thingy? Thanks SVSteve, i'll give ya a ping. Worst case scenario i'll just hammer a flathead through there and see if Anthony's method works.
     
  8. Chance

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    Weld a smaller bolt into the rounded one and twist it out.
     
  9. Gone14s

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    A hex headed socket will take it out. Its a socket with a 6 sided star allen in the end of it. You can get them at any Ace hardware store.

    Kurt
     
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    Jesus H. I wouldn't recommend this... They make tools for extracting fasteners. A screwdriver and hammer isn't one of them.

    Sashi, in the future try to use hex sockets instead of Allen wrenches for these types of fasteners. If you must use Allen wrenches, try to avoid the round head type.
     
  11. Sashi

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    haha, i have been using a hex socket attached onto a wrench. I'm guessing the head wasnt in all the way and I cranked on it, causing it to round out.
     
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    Carl has the method right. Soak it first. You may not need to drill anything with that bolt. Let me know and I can go get mine. Also willing to help with the extraction.
     
  14. Working with old 50s and 60s bikes I deal with a lot of seized bolts and nuts. I use the "soak the pin area overnight in some kind of break free type of product" and after a while put a bit of heat to it, a propane torch of even a cigarette lighter will do in a pinch. The penetrating oil will cook a bit and you should be ale to break it free with a some what large wrench or a flat tiped easy out. I would not bang or hammer the caliber since you may break or crack that eyelet
     
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    thanks for all the help fellas, i got it. A little bit of teflon lubricant, sat around for a few minutes, and I just jammed in a hex head, and break barr'd it. Lucked out!!
     
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    Thats great............