Rain riding tips

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  1. Player-P

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    Went to Vallejo today in the rain on the bike to see some buds. I could have caged it but figured it would also be good to get some skills riding in rain just in case I really have to ride in it. I had my rain gear, decreased my speed, took it slow on the turns w/out too much lean, increased my braking distance and distance behind cagers, and tried to stay from between cagers as much as possible.

    So any other tips will be appreciated because I may start biking it to work in the rain on some days. thanks :vtr2:
     
  2. hundo

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    The challenge with riding in the rain is the inability to manuever in those last second close calls. Even with the rain gear the ability to focus is dimished plus the cagers suck about seeing us when it's dry let alone wet. Good luck
     
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    Yea what he said riding in the rain is just asking for trouble because the idiot cagers get even dumber... I don't think it's worth it
     
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    My tip is DO NOT RIDE IN THE RAIN. I have only ridden in rain and hail 2 or 3 times. Keys that were told to me was do not make quick and rash decisions. Maintain all that you have mentioned and steer clear of the paint lines. Cold weather and a slick wet surface = trouble.
     
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    Don't be afraid of the rain. You still have grip, just not as much. And you and your bike get filthy in the rain. Paint markings on the street and manhole covers can be extra slick, so it's best to try to be as upright as possible if you have to ride over them or, better, just avoid riding over them all together. Intersections where vehicles wait at the light and drop oils on the road can be extra slick as well. But, overall, you may be surprised by just how much grip you have, so long as you're not riding on track day tires. When I rode around the country in 2006, I spent about a third of the trip in the rain. Also, keep in mind that if you thought people weren't looking out for you when the weather's good, they sure as hell aren't going to expect you to be out on your bike in the rain. So be extra cautious. I'd prefer sunshine to rain and my bikes are sitting in the garage right now, but it's not something to be frightened of if you need or want to ride in it. Rainy days are when all the time you spent through the spring and summer being vigilant about your safety and practicing riding as smoothly as possible pays off.
     
  6. johnparjr

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    Freakin Nancy's riding in the rain is no big deal as long as your aware of your surroundings and don't ride like an idiot. I ride all year long rain, wind, snow just be smooth on the throttle and avoid as much painted lines and arrows as possible. It's great to be out in the weather it means your not a weekend warrior but a real motorcyclist enjoy the ride.
     
  7. Riding in the rain/snow can be fun if your prepared.

    Comfortable, warm gear. Throttle control.
     
  8. TT120

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    Yeah, the rain is no big deal. Just be extra smooth with the controls and you'll be fine.
     
  9. svsteve

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    I ride everyday. My bike is also my commuter. And my next vehicle will be a bike also. Don't ride like a dope and you'll be fine.
     
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    ya know, I spent enough time in the rain in the army, and if I don't have to, I aint gonna be out in the rain no more, I don't even like to drive in the rain, and ride in the rain, why if I don't have to. It has nothing to do with bein a rider or not, you all know I dont care about cold, hot, or much else, but I aintgopnna ride in the rain if I dont have to, and I aint gonna ride in the snow, dont want nothin to do with that there white stuff anyway.
     
  11. Hoologan

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    Nice and smooth. Having good gear that keeps you warm and dry helps a lot too.

    ...and don't listen to all that "if you don't ride in the rain you ain't shit" BS. Do what makes you happy. If that means staying out of the rain, then so be it.
     
  12. kenny

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    heres some basics from the net-
    So suppose you're thinking about getting on a wet road for the first time, or perhaps you've done it a few times, or perhaps you do it so much you're not thinking about what the hazards are.

    Here's a list of critical rain hazards I like to watch for and look for even after 31 years of riding.

    Painted Lines - Crosswalks can be unsafe for motorcyclists, particularly if you're turning right or left and crossing the lines at an angle. Slow down more than usual and make the turn straight up, rather than in a lean.

    Ditto for diamonds in the HOV lanes. Very nasty when you lean into one, especially on the freeway. The diamond is shaped so you just slide across it and continue to slide along it.

    Any painted line is a hazard. Until the DOT addresses the issue and comes up with a tackier texture you're the one in control of your destiny.

    Surface Textures - Many commercial and residential parking areas are paved with very slick concrete surfaces. Your wet entry into the local mall or condo complex can put you on the ground in a second. Again, ride slow and straight up and don't let the concrete bite you.

    Rubber - If you thought you might save some money by buying long lasting tires, think again. Such tires are typically not as tacky and have less traction when the rain comes out. Next time you change tires look for the tackiest one that will take care of you better during your northwest riding adventures.

    How about that rubber they use around railroad tracks to decrease the sound as cars drive over them? Forget those little circles on the surface, these provide zero traction to you as you cross. Slow and straight up.

    Steel - Manhole covers are enemy number one and railroad tracks rank a close second. Making a turn over the surface of them sets you up for trouble. Avoid such, or keep the bike straight up and cross over it slowly.

    Railroad tracks have a way of popping up on you just after a turn and you may still be into a lean when you reach them. Look for the crossing signs ahead of time, slow down and stay straight up when crossing.

    Grated bridge crossings and metal plates are a nasty encounter in the rain. Look at where you want to ride, take it slow and don't try any fancy dancing, particularly a lane change.

    Water - Puddles/Pot Holes - It only takes once to know how this one feels. You cruise through a puddle and after it's too late you realize you just went into a pot hole that wants to suck you into the underworld more painfully than Satan himself beating you down with a stick. Avoid puddles if you can. Use caution and predict the possibility ahead of time. Recovery from this rude awakening is not always easy. Pull over and take a few minutes of rest if you need to gather your wits. In 1997 the Seattle Times reported that the DOT only had enough funds to patch 60% of the potholes created in the state that wet winter.
    Riding Motorcycles in the Rain
    By George Tranos

    Nothing beats riding with the sun shining on your back. A nice warm fall day seems to bring out motorcycles and falling leaves in equal numbers. Unfortunately, there will be times when the skies open up and riding in the rain becomes unavoidable. Let's go over some strategies for riding in wet conditions.

    First, Don't Panic!
    If you're caught out unaware, consider slowing down or even stopping. Some showers and thunderstorms pass quickly and by stopping you might be able to avoid the rain entirely. Check the weather forecast, be prepared for the rain with the proper clothing and motorcycle gear, and plan your trip accordingly. If you don't stop, you should be aware of the additional risks.

    Slick Roads
    The first few minutes after the rain starts can be the most dangerous time to ride. The water mixes with the oil, dirt and road debris creating a slick surface. Motorcycle tires put down a very narrow footprint and once the pavement gets slippery, traction is limited. Try to avoid riding during this initial period. The water eventually wash away the road grime and the pavement will just be wet. While traction is still reduced, modern tire technology will still supply up to 80 percent of the grip of dry weather riding. Even so, a rider must exercise restraint and be smooth in the application of all controls. Throttle and clutch control must be smooth -- avoid sudden acceleration or braking especially in a curve where traction is already limited. Turns should also be taken more gradually with reduced lean angles and less aggressive cornering. Certain roadway features like railroad tracks, bridge gratings and even painted lines and markings will be very slippery and should be crossed with the motorcycle as upright as possible. Above all, leave extra time and space so you don't have to take any sudden actions.

    Hydroplaning
    A vehicle will hydroplane when water builds up to the extent that there is a layer of water between the tires and the road. This is a complete loss of traction and will cause a skid or a fall and must be avoided at all costs. Normally, hydroplaning will occur when you try to drive through a deep puddle, but it could also occur during periods of heavy rain when the roadway does not have time to drain sufficiently. If you notice these circumstances, slow down and consider stopping if you continue to encounter possible hydroplaning conditions.

    Reduced Visibility Makes It Hard To See
    Riding in the rain has other risks as well. Your ability to see ahead of you is reduced. Rain droplets will hit your shield or goggles and, depending on temperature, they may also fog up, impairing your vision. If you normally ride with a tinted visor, as I do, make sure you bring a clear shield that you can use when the rain starts. You can also treat your shield with an anti-fog product. At the minimum, your shield or goggles should be clean and have a minimum of scratches that impair visibility. Wear gloves that have a rubber wiper on the left hand so you can clear you shield quickly if needed. Do not override your visibility, leave sufficient room and look as far ahead as possible to anticipate hazards.

    Reduced Visibility Prevents Others From Seeing You
    Just as you have difficulty seeing, other drivers will have a hard time seeing you. Now is the best time to use bright and reflective material as part of your riding gear. Consider purchasing a reflective vest. It can be carried with you in a tank bag or saddlebag and taken out when visibility is poor (or at night). Add reflective tape to your saddlebags, travel trunk, rear fender or other spots to help other drivers see you. If you normally drive in the rain or at night, you might also want to add additional lighting. These simple additions can make you visible from twice the distance in bad conditions.

    Rider Comfort and Hypothermia
    Nothing is worse than being cold. The body shuts down blood flow to the extremities first to protect the inner core functions. When body temperature is reduced even more, hypothermia can set in. When that happens your body functions slowly deteriorate.

    Coordination, judgment and reflexes diminish. A person who has hypothermia can initially appear drunk. Their coordination is lost and their words may be slurred. You don't want to be driving a motorcycle under these conditions.

    Being wet in addition to being cold will bring on hypothermia even faster. Proper riding gear is necessary to keep your body warm and dry, especially in early spring when the ambient outside temperature is already cold. Choose and use jackets, gloves and pants that either have waterproof, breathable liners such as Gore-Tex, or bring appropriate rain gear. Remember that riding with non-breathable gear might cause moisture buildup inside the garment which can be uncomfortable, but will still keep you dry and is preferable over being wet and cold. Good riding gear pays for itself in comfort.

    While riding in the rain may never be as pleasurable as being out on a bright, warm, sunny day, it can be tolerable if you're prepared with the right gear and attitude. If you're aware of the weather, prepared for the rain and cold and outfit you and your motorcycle properly then riding in the rain doesn't have to be unpleasant. If you practice riding as smoothly as possible, avoid panic and leave yourself enough space and time to avoid any sudden actions then you will be able to ride in wet weather more safely.

    George Tranos lives with his wife and fellow instructor Diane Ortiz in New York. They are certified instructors and MSF RiderCoaches. Together they run the Big Apple

    Oil - It's everywhere and very illusive. Those little red and blue rainbows on the ground mean danger. Ride slow and straight up. As per the DOL's motorcycle safety manual, if you're caught in the first rain following a few dry days remember the roads are covered with lots of oil and dirt that will be lifted from the surface in the first 30-60 minutes of a new rain. Take a coffee break if you can.
     
  13. Busy Little Shop

    Busy Little Shop Have a wheelie nice day

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    Street tires are designed to give a warning wiggle before they let
    go... but what's more important is understanding the technical
    knowledge of controlling a rear wheel slide...

    Remember the bars set the learn angle... and once you get the lean
    angle set the rear steers the bike... at this point you may roll on
    the throttle and feel for the first signs of a wiggle... a wiggle is
    the preamble to a slide... some riders speak about sliding the rear
    as fun... it is fun if they can overcome the fear to chop the throttle
    and tighten on the bars... which immediately establishes traction and
    is the preamble to a high side...
     
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    I'm getting ready to ride to work, you guys have any wind advice.......lol.
     
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    Well as for me , rain riding I love it but on my motard dam its fun , now as for my sportbike takes to long to clean it LOL . Riding in the rain will make you a better rider in the long run , just be smart you will be ok
     
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    Riding in the rain is dangerous and miserable. Don't do it!
     
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    Wtf did MOTODAN of all people just say? I think i need to do a double take..:eek:
     
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    *click* werd. :)
     
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    stizo, youre certifiable also. but we already klnew that